But generally speaking, I mean, people didn't want to fight like that. And so for the last 100 years, it's been controversial. Nobody ever says that that's the case, but for some reason, this really caught on. And about 100 years ago, a scholar in Oxford who clearly had rugby on his mind decided that this should be conceived as a literal mass shoving. So, this is the supposed Greek concept of othismos, which literally means pushing. I'm an expert in ancient warfare, and I'm here to talk to you today about premodern warfare in modern movies. I'm a lecturer in ancient history at the University of Oxford. I mean, you can just throw boiling water.
Roel Konijnendijk: So, boiling oil, it didn't happen. Account icon An icon in the shape of a person's head and shoulders.
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